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Building The 2017 Minnesota Twins


Ted Schwerzler

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There's no denying that 2016 has been a colossal disappointment across Twins Territory. Even if you weren't among the group of believers thinking this club could be a playoff team, you likely didn't see this level of disaster. That being said, it's probably past time to begin looking at next year. When doing so, maybe the most important factor is what names fill up the 25 man roster.

 

Here's some stipulations for this exercise. I won't be using trades to acquire anyone. First, I'm not a great matchmaker, and predicting who may or may not be available just isn't a rabbit hole I want to dive down. Secondly, I won't be taking any stabs at arbitration salaries. It's a complicated process, and while I'll note guaranteed salaries and any free agent dollars, I will merely mention players that will be arbitration eligible as well as referencing their 2016 dollars.

 

With that out of the way, here we go:

 

Starting Lineup (9)

  • 1B Joe Mauer $23 million
  • 2B Brian Dozier $6 million
  • 3B Trevor Plouffe Arbitration Eligible ($7.25m in 2016)
  • SS Jorge Polanco Pre-Arbitration
  • C Wilson Ramos $20 million (5 year, $100 million)
  • LF Eddie Rosario Pre-Arbitration
  • CF Bryon Buxton Pre-Arbitration
  • RF Max Kepler Pre-Arbitration
  • DH Miguel Sano Pre-Arbitration

I'm not of the belief that Brian Dozier should be dealt. He may be the Twins best trade chip, but having not bought into his free agent years hurts the Twins some. Play him up the middle with Jorge Polanco and let them be the catalyst of the Minnesota lineup. My thoughts on Plouffe coming back have been fleshed out here, although I'm nervous to see what he gets in arbitration. By allowing him to play the field, Miguel Sano can focus on being a hitter, what he does best.

 

Obviously the biggest splash here is the Wilson Ramos acquisition. He's the best hitting catcher in the big leagues, and that deal may even be a bit light. Considering he just turned 29 and won't be 30 until the end of next season, I'd look to wrap him up for at least five years. He'll have plenty of suitors, and there's no telling what his feelings towards the organization are. Minnesota has serious catching issues. Don't keep putting a band-aid on them, the new GM can make a splash and fix this spot almost immediately.

 

Bench (4)

  • Eduardo Escobar Arbitration Eligible ($2.15m in 2016)
  • Mitch Garver Pre-Arbitration
  • Daniel Palka Pre-Arbitration
  • Byung Ho Park $2.75 million

When it comes to utility infielders, it's basically between Escobar and Danny Santana for the Twins. I'm really not concerned about Santana being out of options, and his positional flexibility doesn't mean much when he's below average everywhere. Give me Escobar to spell the infield. I'm more than ok with the idea that Mitch Garver can leap frog recently acquired John Ryan Murphy. The former Yankees backstop has struggled all year, and the Twins home grown product has done anything but. Garver can spell Ramos when needed.

 

In this scenario, Palka essentially replaces Robbie Grossman, who I don't think has a place on the 2017 Twins. Palka's power is real, he should be a very capable bench power bat, and can start in either corner outfield spot one or two days a week. Palka will strike out plenty, but I think he's shown just a bit more than the other guy I considered here, Adam Brett Walker.

 

That leaves us with Byung Ho Park. 2016 has been a disappointment for the Korean slugger. He's been nagged by a wrist issue, but I think there's a significant learning curve he's struggling with too. 2017 may see him head back to Triple-A again, but from the get go, let him rotate in at first base and designated hitter.

 

Starting Rotation (5)

  • Ervin Santana $13.5 million
  • Phil Hughes $13.2 million
  • Kyle Gibson Arbitration Eligible ($586k in 2016)
  • Trevor May Pre-Arbitration
  • Jose Berrios Pre-Arbitration

Having nearly $27 million tied up in two average starters isn't ideal, but the rest of the Twins rotation comes on the cheap. I'd struggle with dealing Santana in part because of Hughes' injury concerns, as well as knowing the open market has next to nothing that you could replace him with. Minnesota will need to hope Hughes returns healthy and at least somewhat effective to start the 2017 season.

 

After the top two guys, it's youth all the way. Trevor May to the rotation is not something I've ever been convinced of, but his back suggests he needs to be back there. If he can pitch anything like he has as a reliever, Minnesota may have a high strikeout guy here which is something they desperately need. Speaking of strikeouts, Jose Berrios should provide plenty if he can get locked in as well. Something has to click, but I think he'll be fine.

 

I'd really rather see Adalberto Mejia in this five somehow, but I'm just not sure where he fits. If you deal Santana or Hughes can't stay healthy, then there's obvious room. There should be plenty of steam behind Stephen Gonsalves being an early season addition as well.

 

Bullpen (7)

  • Glen Perkins $6.5 million
  • J.T. Chargois Pre-Arbitration
  • Taylor Rogers Pre-Arbitration
  • Tyler Duffey Pre-Arbitration
  • Brandon Kintzler Arbitration Eligible
  • Michael Tonkin Pre- Arbitration
  • Ryan Pressly Arbitration Eligible ($520k in 2016)

There's some real concern as to whether or not Perkins is ever effective again. Either way, I'd start sliding Chargois into some save situations sooner rather than later. Rogers has been lights out for Minnesota this season, and I think it's just the tip of the iceberg. Light is another hard thrower, coming over from Boston in exchange for Fernando Abad, and he could help the Twins push the strikeout total in relief.

 

When it comes to holdovers, Tonkin and Pressly both seem no brainers for me from the get go. I'm not sure Tonkin is a long term option, but I think he's too good to cut bait with from the get go. Pressly has been one of the Twins best relievers since 2014, and the former Rule 5 pick continues to be as trustworthy as they come in relief.

 

Probably the toughest to pin down for me is Brandon Kintzler. He's pitched himself into the immediate 2017 plans for the Twins, but he's not a piece of the future either. Operating as a closer, he's done admirably. Striking out just 5.5 per nine though, there's little upside here. I think he warms a 7th inning spot for the likes of Jake Reed, Pat Light, or Zack Jones in the not-so-distant future. If Minnesota gets any trade offers for him, I'd move him immediately.

 

If there's a surprise in this group, it's my inclusion of former starter Tyler Duffey. He was a reliever in college, and his lack of a solid third pitch has hurt him significantly as a starter. He profiles as a guy who could be very good in short bursts, and even if he's your long man, the Twins are better positioned with him out of the rotation.

As things sit right now, I feel pretty good about the above landscape. Sure, players like Danny Santana and Kennys Vargas are jettisoned from the organization as they are out of options, but trading them prior to losing them would be a good way to go about things. I have a hard time believing the Twins are destined for greatness in 2017, but think the above provides a solid foundation to begin to go for it in 2018.

 

While there's not a massive overhaul, I don't think there really needs to be either. Seeing the Twins turn the page the past few months, this current group is capable of playing competitive baseball. If the 2017 group I've laid out can play good baseball on a nightly basis, they'll hang around .500 long enough to be relevant all season. At the end of the day, they're going to need to pitch, which has been the organization's downfall. The pen is set up to be creative and cheap, while the rotation relies on arms that should have higher ceilings than those that have been run out in the not so distant past.

 

Should the Twins spend this offseason, it needs to be at the catcher position. With a free agent class void of any real diamonds, throwing money around with capable internal options doesn't seem ideal. That may not provide fireworks, but keeping a focus on the future needs to be the goal.

 

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I can't see the Ramos reunion happening, somebody's going to throw a crazy amount of money at that guy, but you never know.

 

I believe the new GM will want to completely blow things up and start over, but ownership will be hesitant to do so. This may be pretty close to the 2017 Opening Day roster, but if things start off poorly again I'd expect a massive fire sale at the trade deadline.

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You are close.  I would trade Dozier for starting pitching, if the offer is good.  Plouffe should be gone, and that would free up another spot(D. Santana or other options).  Do not believe Palka should be a bench bat, either play him or have him in Rochester. Youth on the bench usually does not equal good results. 

Believe the May - Duffey switch could happen, so this was a good catch.  Do not think Twins will give Santiago away for free, but with new GM, who knows.

New GM scares me,  do not think a top flight person will take the job knowing the owner will interfere.  That leaves Rob Anotony and other lesser options.  Much will be known after the end of the year.

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I can't see the Ramos reunion happening, somebody's going to throw a crazy amount of money at that guy, but you never know.

 

I believe the new GM will want to completely blow things up and start over, but ownership will be hesitant to do so. This may be pretty close to the 2017 Opening Day roster, but if things start off poorly again I'd expect a massive fire sale at the trade deadline.

Ramos is a long shot, and I think the money I suggested is probably where the Twins stop. Ultimately, he probably gets more than that. I'd be ok with him fixing the issues rather than resigning Suzuki to a bandaid deal.

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You are close.  I would trade Dozier for starting pitching, if the offer is good.  Plouffe should be gone, and that would free up another spot(D. Santana or other options).  Do not believe Palka should be a bench bat, either play him or have him in Rochester. Youth on the bench usually does not equal good results. 

Believe the May - Duffey switch could happen, so this was a good catch.  Do not think Twins will give Santiago away for free, but with new GM, who knows.

New GM scares me,  do not think a top flight person will take the job knowing the owner will interfere.  That leaves Rob Anotony and other lesser options.  Much will be known after the end of the year.

 

Plouffe staying provides insurance for Sano's elbow. I don't think Danny Santana has any business being on a big league roster, and especially not on a bad team. I'm good with dealing Dozier if you think you can get a top tier starter. I don't know that it's the case though, and then you create an issue at SS again until at least 2018.

 

Santiago leaving for nothing is in part due to not wanting to pay him for mediocrity, and him not being in the mix opens up a roster spot.

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I don't see the Twins spending $100 millin on Ramps. He is not...Mauer in his prime, fer sure. That is a lot of bucks for someone who is coming off a career year. Sadly, the Twins will stick with Murphy, which still means Garver will be in the mix.

 

I just have a hardtime paying Plouffe whatever he will get in arbitration, unless you plug him in as a jack-of-all trades. Keeping Plouffe means you don't need Vargas and you don't need Park. You have to pony up and make the decision longer term. You keep Plouffe for a year and lose him to free agency, or sign him for 2-3 years in the $25-30 million range. Then you let Vargas walk (or sell him to Japan) and possibly do the same with Park. I don't see much trade interest in either, unless packaged with a prospect or two for some minor league depth...which is not out of the question as the Twins may have a prospect or two they can't protect this year or next.

 

Pa;la will need to be a 40-man add. But like Walker, who he is slowly passing, he will have to spend time in the minors, which means you still keep Grossman (who is cheap) as well as Santana on the off-season 40-man. Both players are on the fringe for the team, so IF you do sign a free agent, you have some wiggle room. Although the Twins making a $$$ free agent splash will probably not happen.

 

At this point, Santiago is a lost cause, it seems. He would be another Mike Pelfrey if you resigned him thru arbitration, not knowing what you get and expensive, even if he does produce. I don't see him pitching to 15-7 with a three-something era next season. You essentially save some money that you aren't paying him or Pelfrey, and cutting ties with Meyer, who didn't look like he would be a starting option next season (hell, he only threw how many innings this year) and likely to be bypassed as a bullpen option, was probably a godsend.

 

The question with moving May to the bullpen is the ability to throw innings. Will he be able to do 130, 150? How is that decision made. It is also a tough call on Duffey, who could join Dean and Albers in free agent land. If Duffey is, indeed, the longman out of the bullpen, let's start looking at that now, today. See how he is coming into a game in the 6th inning. It may mean more Dean and Albers and Santiago in the rotation this season (but let's look at Meija and Wheeler, too), but if you are looking at changing roles for next season, do some looksee now.

 

The bullpen as a whole looks pretty weak, depending on the return of Perkins. You forgot about Pat Light, Ryan O'Rourke and possibly Alex Wimmers. Those names alone offer some competition to a group that will is pretty even in the competitive throwing field. Pretty much all these names will get a looksee in spring training: Jones, Hildenburger, Reed, Burdi, Bard, Gonsalves, Besenitz, Melotakis and maybe even Greenwood. Few of those are probably ready to come out throwing at the spring training in the majors, but expect ALL of them to have an impact sometime in 2017...although I don't know where on the 40-man all will be placed.

 

The new general manager will have a task. We have Plouffe and Mauer blocking players, yet some of those players (Park and Vargas) really don't have a lot of worth. Even Walker, in the mix, is not someone you are getting lots of calls about. We have questionable fielding at 3rd and SS if we place Sano and Polanco there, yet who are our choices? Better them than, say, a Plouffe who could walk (and would his stock be high in mid-season, considering he will be a free agent, than this season or last). Do you like Polanco over Escobar? What to do with catcher? Spend money on Ramos, forcing shot/longterm decisions on Murphy, Garver, Turner down to Murray and Navaretto. If Park would return to Korea or somewhere, would you do it? What if Buxton still struggles...is Granite a future answer? 

 

And pitching, pitching, pitching. Going into 2016, I actually felt that if healthy, the Twins had a rotation that would get us into the 7th inning. How wrong was I. And even though the bullpen has showed some life and strong arms, they still haven't been put to the test in keeping the Twins ahead in games and working in a win-win situation. Yes, you have pressure everyday when playing in the majors, but it is different when a win counts compared to just trying to stay in the game...or finish the game.

 

Would like to see you take a run at the Twins 40-man roster, as well as current members of Rochester/Chattanooga. Are they keepers or fluff. Look at each membere of the team and try to judge their worth in the major league marketplace. If there was an expansion draft, who would the Twins lose. Who on the team would a general manager actually call to discuss as a trade possibility. Who are placesetters for 2017. Out of all the players on the 40-man and the two upper levels of the minors, who COULD find a place on any 40-man roster for a different team in 2017 and should the Twins go there. Those are the pressing looksees of the new general manager. Working with what the Twins have that may be of modest or little value, figuring out the possibilities of immediate prospects, and looking at system depth out towards 2018/2019.

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I like most of your original idea but don't agree with all. Could we use and afford Ramos? Probably. But even if he would come here...doubtful...I don't like spending such big money on an almost 30yo catcher with some injury history.

 

But we do need help at catcher. I'm inclined to sign the best veteran I can for a season, two at most. However, I'd also be very interested in the best DFA, milb FA John Hicks type I could find as another option. This guy would fight with Centeno, Murphy and Garver...who gets some September exposure...for the top two spots. This could change later in the season.

 

Mauer is at 1B/DH with either Vargas or Park. Based on youth, potential, switch hitting, OB%, I'm hoping for Vargas. A healthy Park could surprise yet though. I get the sentiment to trading Dozier for a top SP. I'm OK with that if the right deal and right guy is there, but I have concerns. I like his bat, solid glove, and veteran experience to help lead the offense. Polanco and Escobar fight it out for SS with the "loser" being my utility player. Sano is at 3B. I'm a fan of Plouffe, but I just don't feel he should be back unless there is real concern that his recent injury is something more than minor soreness.

 

On a side note, I'm going to sign the best AAAA middle infielder and 3B I can find for Rochester and call up depth. I see Rochester's infield looking short next season.

 

My OF plan is Rosario, Buxton and Kepler. Grossman could figure as a 4th OF, but I'm going to sign a legitimate 4th OF type for depth, or to play LF/CF if Buxton needs more time. This could bump Grossman to 5th OF or AAA.

 

I'm going to sign a veteran back of the bullpen arm on the rebound, or looking for one more good year. Either than, or I keep Kintzler if I believe enough in him, but not both. I've got Chargois, Tonkin and Pressly locked in, along with Rogers from the left side. I'm bringing in a couple of lefty arms in search of another Abad who will compete with O'Rourke, and possibly Boshers, Wheeler and Dean for the 2nnd lefty role. That leaves one spot open in the pen for the best man available during ST auditions.

 

Call me a ridiculous optomist, but I don't think Santana, a healthy Gibson and a more experienced Berrios as too bad a place to begin my rotation. Great? No. But not a bad place to start. I also like May here. It's such a shame he didn't have this season to build his experience in the rotation. The last spot is between Duffey and Mejia. Despite a mixed bag of results, Duffey has shown real promise at times, and Mejia is a young lefty who throws hard and may be about ready to surge, though he has ,essential than a half season at AAA.

 

I have a quality veteran to help lead the staff, a young veteran who I believe still hasn't shown us his best yet, and a trio of talented youngsters with more on the way.

 

I like my mix of youth and a few key veterans. The lineup itself is a little hard to predict at this point, IMO.

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Baxendale's numbers out of the pen are better than all those guys you mentioned

His performance has earned him a sept call up and the opportunity to compete for a spot in the Twins pen in 2017

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You all forget about Hughes, who may or may not make it back.  That will also affect the rotation.  Believe you have to keep Santiago, at least to start.  Maybe you have to trade Santiago or Gibson or both to free up room for starters (May/Duffey/Gonsalves/Mejia) as innings are needed to see who can pitch and who will not have spots here in two years.  Cannot have constant rebuilding program, but better pitchers have to work way to top and do not believe much in the current crop outside of Santana.

Bullpen already has 5 - 6 members so spots there should be difficult to get as Perkins(if healthy), Pressley, Kinizler, Rogers, and possibly either Duffey or May are slotted there. That only leaves 2 openings or 1 if you count Chargois).  Then pen should be OK with more experience, but also could be bolstered by several pitchers in the upper level of the minors.

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I don't understand why everyone thinks Gibson is a lock for the rotation. He is as inconsistent as they come and is no longer young, with upside. Obviously, the options are limited behind him, but he is no more of a lock in my mind than Duffey, Santiago, HUghes, etc.

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Vargas >>>>> Palka. Palka will strike out 40% for sure and perhaps 50% and bat .220 if he's lucky. In AAA, he's below.250 despite a high BABIP. Vargas also has more value as a switch hitter.

 

As far as that goes, Zach Granite >>>> Palka, especially for #4 outfielder, because he can field. Reports on Palka's fielding are not good. The Twins have a fly ball pitching staff, which means that good outfielders have premium value. Conversely, as shown repeatedly over the past several years, bad outfielders exacerbate the problems of the pitching staff that has been collected. Note also that Granite's OBP in AA this year is slightly higher than Palka's AA OBP and his BA is higher, despite a lower BABIP, so it's not like a lot of offense would be lost with Granite instead of Palka. In fact, Granite's skills tend to translate better.

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Buxton last 10 games in AAA: 39 BA, 0 walks, 16 K's (41%), against non-super pitchers. He needs a good winter break and then physical and mental retooling. Hard to believe he'll break camp with the team.

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