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Is this Finally the Final Straw for Gardenhire?


jtkoupal

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Here we are, at the tail end of another lost season. This season, in the beginning, was a different season. The team fought, there was some urgency, and the team was able to keep its head above water for the first two months. After Kyle Gibson pitched a gem in Detroit in early June, I, along with many others in Twins Territory, were starting to become optimistic that something decent may become of this season. That lasted all of half of a week, as the team fell into disarray immediately and have never looked back.

 

With this season almost definitely going toward 90+ losses, as they would need to finish at least 11-5 to avoid it, questions pop up. Will Gardy be back? Will Andy be back with the poor starting rotation we have seen the last 4 years? Will Terry Ryan be back?

 

You can make your argument on the quality of a manager that Gardy is. I don't doubt that he is a decent manager. However, you can't argue that the roster management has been questionable and that Gardy has made some other in-game decisions that simply leave you thinking, "why, Gardy?" Of course not everything falls on Gardy, but in business, any business, the manager is often the one who can produce the most change. Gardy was once a very successful manager, but the game has changed. He is now dealing with a team of young players, something that doesn't really seem to be his strength. The talent has been there, but not superstar level. But when you lose 90 games 4 years in a row, something must change.

 

Rick Anderson is also a decent pitching coach, but he also isn't getting through to some of these kids. When good pitchers put a Twins cap on and suck on a consistent basis, it raises some eyebrows.

 

Terry Ryan would be someone that I would be OK keeping as long as his relationship with Gardenhire doesn't get in the way of what is best for the team. On most teams, Gardy would have probably been gone 2 years ago, I have trouble believing that there is a strong relationship tethering the Front Office to Gardy. The relationship became even more evident when they decided to give him a new contract after 3 poor seasons. Most organizations in any sport would never have done that, but this one did, which tells me something.

 

Will they be back? My personal opinion is that Terry should be back but not Gardy and the coaching staff. I have a feeling that they all will, even if they really shouldn't. This feeling does not have anything to do with Terry's comments earlier this summer about him and Gardy probably being back. You wouldn't go out and announce that during the season.

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Like TD poster LaBombo said in another thread somewhere (I am paraphrasing), the burden of proof really needs to fall on the "keep Gardy" people this time around.. And we're talking something real compelling. No more "because prospects" or that Ryan "takes full responsibility" for the horrible players the Twins have. :) (which by the way is patently false, in my opinion)

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The Twins have to seriously look at the direction they want to take over the next 2-3 years and who will be heading up this new crop of players. If the team becomes successful in 2016 or 2017, will you be keeping the same management team in place to carry it forwards towards 2020 and beyond, or do you change right when the team hits success.

 

You can always keep bodies around in a consult status.

 

But the other question is are we just replacing current bodies with younger versions of the same old same old company men or do we bring in new blood, which will transform the team in ways that aren't the so-called "Twins Way."

 

There is something wrong with the arm injuries that are starting to happen too often in baseball, and the Twins system for sure.

 

The Twins evaluate talent too carefully and tend to go with more middle-of-the-road guys. They need to take even more chances. Yes, 2014 was a free agent disaster with the Twins basically eating salaries of two major non-productive pitchers in the weakest link of the field players. But does that stop you from taking a chance again? It looks like it might or could. Did the Toshi experiment keep the Twins from actually offering sums of money to other foreign talent from Japan or Cuba? It seems to.

 

Gardy has a hard job. With his pitching coach he either leaves a pitcher in too long or not long enough. If you have 25 players on the team, you need to feel that you can use any of them at any time, otherwise why are they on the roster.

 

I have never loved Gardy's lineup construction. Especially this last year with Dozier leadoff and Mauer second. Maybe Mauer isn't the #3 hitter anymore. For every matchup right vs. left and all, well, it just seems to be a card shuffle. And you egt on the case of Hicks, or ride Colabello, but Arcia gets every opportunity in the world. You have a first rate catching coach in Terry Steinbach, yet the guy who most needs him you DH or send to Triple A.

 

Management seriously ash to look at how do we become competitive in 2016 and 2017 for sure. What do we need to do to get there. How does management play into keeping these pieces motivated and together, What is the next generation of front office staff and on-field staff, or does the current regime have another decade of play within them.

 

I have no trouble with Ryan and Gardy being around for another 10 years, if they can do the job. But if they can't, I don't see the need to keep them in anything but an advisory capacity entering the 2015 season.

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