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July Trade Deadline-- What if's. A look at options for 2013 MN Twins.


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I admit this is kind of ridiculous looking at this before the beginning of the season, but being bored after watching a horrible Golden Gophers basketball game, I wanted to take a look at the Twins options if they are out of the race and looking to unload, what that looks like, and what are the options for 2013.

 

Free Agents for the 2012 season for the Minnesota Twins

 

Carl Pavano (37)

Scott Baker (31) 9.25M option

Fransicso Liriano (29)

Ryan Doumit (32)

Jason Marquis (34)

Matt Capps (29) 6M option

 

This could be a major problem, and this is what Terry Ryan has to figure out. The Twins current payroll will be right around 100M this year, if you read Phil Mackeys article on 1500ESPN http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/Mackey_Like_it_or_not_scaling_back_payroll_is_right_move_for_Twins010512, it makes perfect sense to keep the payroll where it is. The entire season revolves around Mauer, Morneau, Span. Not to mention, look at the contract years for our starters. We do have major problems at the starting pitcher position after this year, we don't have the minor leagues to help us right now. Here is a list of the FA starting pitchers, thanks MLBtraderumors.com

 

Scott Baker (31) - $9.25MM club option

Erik Bedard (34)

Joe Blanton (32)

Matt Cain (28)

Fausto Carmona (29) - $9MM club option

Bartolo Colon (40)

Aaron Cook (34)

Kevin Correia (32)

Jorge De La Rosa (32) - $11MM player option with a $1MM buyout

Ryan Dempster (36)

R.A. Dickey (38) - $5MM club option with a $300K buyout

Zach Duke (30)

Scott Feldman (29) - $9.25MM club option with a $600K buyout

Jeff Francis (31)

Gavin Floyd (30) - $9.5MM club option

Freddy Garcia (37)

Zack Greinke (28)

Jeremy Guthrie (34)

Cole Hamels (29)

Rich Harden (31)

Dan Haren (32) - $15.5MM club option with a $3.5MM buyout

Livan Hernandez (38)

Tim Hudson (37) - $9MM club option with a $1MM buyout

Edwin Jackson (29)

Hiroki Kuroda (38)

Colby Lewis (33)

Francisco Liriano (29)

Kyle Lohse (34)

Rodrigo Lopez (37)

Derek Lowe (40)

Paul Maholm (31) - $6.5MM club option with a $500K buyout

Shaun Marcum (31)

Jason Marquis (34)

Daisuke Matsuzaka (32)

Brandon McCarthy (29)

Kevin Millwood (38)

Brett Myers (32) - $10MM vesting option with a $3MM buyout

Carl Pavano (37)

Jake Peavy (31) - $22MM club option with a $4MM buyout

Anibal Sanchez (29)

Jonathan Sanchez (30)

Ervin Santana (30) - $13MM club option with a $1MM buyout

Joe Saunders (32)

James Shields (31) - $9MM club option with a $1.5MM buyout

Chien-Ming Wang (33)

Jake Westbrook (35) - $8.5MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout if club declines

Randy Wolf (36) - $10MM club option with a $1.5MM buyout

Chris Young (34)

Carlos Zambrano (32)

 

What I can't do is determine what teams are going to be in races, or teams that need a starter after an injury that may be in the race, if we are out of the race in July, what are the best options? Do we resign Scott Baker for the 9 Million, are we shopping Liriano this season, I am sure Pavano would be the first to go. One thing that most concerns me is we have 1 pitcher signed as a starter in 2013, Nick Blackburn. So not only do we not have anything close to an Ace now, we don't even have a #1, #2, or #3 in 2013. Look how many free agents are going to be under the age of 30? The Twins were banking on Kyle Gibson, and then he needs Tommy John, as a Twins fan I hope he comes back to be the talent he has to offer.

 

Kyle Gibson R (24) ETA 2013

Liam Hendricks R (23) ETA 2012

Adrian Salcedo R (20) ETA 2014

Hudson Boyd R (19) ETA 2015

Alex Wimmers R (23) ETA 2014

Manuel Soliman R (22) ETA 2015

Madison Boer R (22) ETA 2014

Corey Williams L (21) ETA 2013

Matt Hauser R (23) ETA 2012

 

These are the Twins top pitching prospects, not one of these are on MLB top 100. Looking at 2013, looking at projections we add Gibson, Hendricks, Hauser, Williams. We need pitching prospects that can help us the next coming years. My guess is we sign Scott Baker if he stays healthy, Kyle Gibson makes his way into the rotation, then we have Blackburn. If we are in the mix, who are we going to trade, we don't have that much to give up, although we do have a big draft coming up. If the Twins get Mark Appel from Stanford in the draft, that will definitely help, as he is predicted to be a "franchise" pitcher, we would maybe be able to look at giving up an outfielder. This will also be a big year for Ben Revere. If you look up the free agent list for outfield, you will also see a name all of us know, Torii Hunter. This will be an interesting scenario if Revere doesn't have a good season, we would still have Span, Willingham, and Plouffe, we would need something off the bench as well as an outfielder, who may be able to start as well. The way I look at how the outfield looks, I can easily see the Twins signing Hunter at a pretty low price. This is really going to be an interesting first 40 games of the season, then see how we use Marquis, Pavano, and Liriano as trade bait, and see what we can get for them.

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I admit this is kind of ridiculous looking at this before the beginning of the season, but being bored after watching a horrible Golden Gophers basketball game, I wanted to take a look at the Twins options if they are out of the race and looking to unload, what that looks like, and what are the options for 2013.

 

Free Agents for the 2012 season for the Minnesota Twins

 

Carl Pavano (37)

Scott Baker (31) 9.25M option

Fransicso Liriano (29)

Ryan Doumit (32)

Jason Marquis (34)

Matt Capps (29) 6M option

 

This could be a major problem, and this is what Terry Ryan has to figure out. The Twins current payroll will be right around 100M this year, if you read Phil Mackeys article on 1500ESPN http://www.1500espn.com/sportswire/Mackey_Like_it_or_not_scaling_back_payroll_is_right_move_for_Twins010512, it makes perfect sense to keep the payroll where it is. The entire season revolves around Mauer, Morneau, Span. Not to mention, look at the contract years for our starters. We do have major problems at the starting pitcher position after this year, we don't have the minor leagues to help us right now. Here is a list of the FA starting pitchers, thanks MLBtraderumors.com

 

Scott Baker (31) - $9.25MM club option

Erik Bedard (34)

Joe Blanton (32)

Matt Cain (28)

Fausto Carmona (29) - $9MM club option

Bartolo Colon (40)

Aaron Cook (34)

Kevin Correia (32)

Jorge De La Rosa (32) - $11MM player option with a $1MM buyout

Ryan Dempster (36)

R.A. Dickey (38) - $5MM club option with a $300K buyout

Zach Duke (30)

Scott Feldman (29) - $9.25MM club option with a $600K buyout

Jeff Francis (31)

Gavin Floyd (30) - $9.5MM club option

Freddy Garcia (37)

Zack Greinke (28)

Jeremy Guthrie (34)

Cole Hamels (29)

Rich Harden (31)

Dan Haren (32) - $15.5MM club option with a $3.5MM buyout

Livan Hernandez (38)

Tim Hudson (37) - $9MM club option with a $1MM buyout

Edwin Jackson (29)

Hiroki Kuroda (38)

Colby Lewis (33)

Francisco Liriano (29)

Kyle Lohse (34)

Rodrigo Lopez (37)

Derek Lowe (40)

Paul Maholm (31) - $6.5MM club option with a $500K buyout

Shaun Marcum (31)

Jason Marquis (34)

Daisuke Matsuzaka (32)

Brandon McCarthy (29)

Kevin Millwood (38)

Brett Myers (32) - $10MM vesting option with a $3MM buyout

Carl Pavano (37)

Jake Peavy (31) - $22MM club option with a $4MM buyout

Anibal Sanchez (29)

Jonathan Sanchez (30)

Ervin Santana (30) - $13MM club option with a $1MM buyout

Joe Saunders (32)

James Shields (31) - $9MM club option with a $1.5MM buyout

Chien-Ming Wang (33)

Jake Westbrook (35) - $8.5MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout if club declines

Randy Wolf (36) - $10MM club option with a $1.5MM buyout

Chris Young (34)

Carlos Zambrano (32)

 

What I can't do is determine what teams are going to be in races, or teams that need a starter after an injury that may be in the race, if we are out of the race in July, what are the best options? Do we resign Scott Baker for the 9 Million, are we shopping Liriano this season, I am sure Pavano would be the first to go. One thing that most concerns me is we have 1 pitcher signed as a starter in 2013, Nick Blackburn. So not only do we not have anything close to an Ace now, we don't even have a #1, #2, or #3 in 2013. Look how many free agents are going to be under the age of 30? The Twins were banking on Kyle Gibson, and then he needs Tommy John, as a Twins fan I hope he comes back to be the talent he has to offer.

 

Kyle Gibson R (24) ETA 2013

Liam Hendricks R (23) ETA 2012

Adrian Salcedo R (20) ETA 2014

Hudson Boyd R (19) ETA 2015

Alex Wimmers R (23) ETA 2014

Manuel Soliman R (22) ETA 2015

Madison Boer R (22) ETA 2014

Corey Williams L (21) ETA 2013

Matt Hauser R (23) ETA 2012

 

These are the Twins top pitching prospects, not one of these are on MLB top 100. Looking at 2013, looking at projections we add Gibson, Hendricks, Hauser, Williams. We need pitching prospects that can help us the next coming years. My guess is we sign Scott Baker if he stays healthy, Kyle Gibson makes his way into the rotation, then we have Blackburn. If we are in the mix, who are we going to trade, we don't have that much to give up, although we do have a big draft coming up. If the Twins get Mark Appel from Stanford in the draft, that will definitely help, as he is predicted to be a "franchise" pitcher, we would maybe be able to look at giving up an outfielder. This will also be a big year for Ben Revere. If you look up the free agent list for outfield, you will also see a name all of us know, Torii Hunter. This will be an interesting scenario if Revere doesn't have a good season, we would still have Span, Willingham, and Plouffe, we would need something off the bench as well as an outfielder, who may be able to start as well. The way I look at how the outfield looks, I can easily see the Twins signing Hunter at a pretty low price. This is really going to be an interesting first 40 games of the season, then see how we use Marquis, Pavano, and Liriano as trade bait, and see what we can get for them.

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I will say it now. Liriano will be a Twin in 2013 and Baker will not. I guess I would be wrong if Liriano is traded for another strong LH pitcher, but I see this as being the case.

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There is a good chance that payroll drops again next year. Less revenue= lower payroll. Next January, Phil Mackey could be defending an Eighty Two Million dollar payroll.

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I can agree with this, but I get his point in the fact of what happens if we spend another 20 million and Morneau and Mauer aren't healthy? I think if we keep it in check, find out the health factor, we would have money to spend at the trade deadline/ or free agents next year. I am worried about what the market looks like for good starting pitchers. It would be great to see Baker healthy all year, pitch to his age/potential, along with Liriano putting a complete season together, putting their talent and age together this would be the year they perform.

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