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Rocco Baldelli; The Perfect Modern Manager


Nick Hanzlik

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Numbers, numbers, numbers, they dictate everything in baseball today. What pitch, how far a runner takes his lead, and everything in between is controlled by analytics and NUMBERS. This makes modern-day baseball the perfect medium for a manager like Rocco Baldelli.

Scenario time. It's the 6th inning, the score is 3-0, and the starter is at 75 pitches. However, the opposing leadoff hitter is now walking toward home plate for the 3rd time of the day. Baldelli discreetly puts a finger to his earpiece as a mysterious voice tells him, "Do it…." He lifts his finger from his ear, spits out his bubblegum, and slowly walks to the pitcher's mound. The starting pitcher's day is over. Derek Falvey can be seen grinning ear to ear.

This scenario plays out across baseball, not just in Minnesota. There are many other examples like it, but the 3rd trip starter yank is the perfect showing of how analytics drive every decision in baseball. You don't have to like it, hell it infuriates me, but it is not changing any time soon, so why fight it? Instead, let us enjoy having Mr. Baldelli as the Twins' manager for as long as possible.

Baldelli is only 41 years old, and it was not too long ago he was running around center field in Tampa and ripping doubles into the gap. Going so quickly from retirement to management makes him the perfect player's manager. His job is to be laid back, allow his players to do what they need to, say the right thing to the media, and tell the replay booth to F-off occasionally.

The Twins hired him, with that being the expectation. They wanted a manager to gel with the players and serve as a pseudo interpreter/boxing bag between the front office and the media. Someone that would not be rattled by media pushback on their new style of play. That is all his job is, and it is all it needs to be, and it is perfect for modern baseball, where 99% of decisions are coming from the iPad anyway. He is the perfect guy to not get in the way of the players.

The polar opposite can be seen with the absurd hiring of Tony La Russa by the White Sox. For some inexplicable reason, that organization thought it was a good idea to resurrect a corpse to manage one of the youngest and most talented teams in baseball. It did not go well.

Somehow, a no-doubt Hall of Fame manager and an elite level of youth and talent came together to create losing baseball. It wasn't a coincidence that when La Russa had to take a medical leave last year, the team immediately started winning.

Yes, the Sox had some critical injuries, but in today's game, an old-school manager who makes great 'gut feeling' decisions is not what young players vibe with (Dusty Baker is GOAT and an exception). Young players want a manager like Rocco. Someone just old enough to listen to and respect but young enough to have perspective and understand what it's like on the player side of a clubhouse. He is akin to a tuxedo t-shirt. It says, "I can be serious, but I'm here to party."

Next time you feel like losing your mind at Rocco for yanking your favorite Twins starter, remember this. That is not his decision alone and is a product of the current regime. It does not matter whose butt Falvey/Levine have their hand up; someone will be their puppet. Let it be Rocco. By traditional standards, he could be better, but by the new standard, he is perfectly fine. That is what makes him great.

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On 1/18/2023 at 9:33 AM, tony&rodney said:

What does Houston and Dusty Baker say on this?

They completely and fully agree with it. Is the argument that Houston doesn't use analytics? They're one of the leaders of the analytics charge. They've had one of the biggest analytics departments in baseball for a decade. They shift more than just about any team in baseball (2nd to the Dodgers last year). I mean "old school Dusty" shifted 82% of the time against left handed hitters last year. 82%! Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's on board with analytics. They went to the World Series in 2021 averaging less than 4 innings per start throughout the postseason. People see Dusty's name and just automatically think they don't use analytics. The Astros are one of the 2 or 3 most analytics driven teams in all of baseball.

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40 minutes ago, chpettit19 said:

They completely and fully agree with it. Is the argument that Houston doesn't use analytics? They're one of the leaders of the analytics charge. They've had one of the biggest analytics departments in baseball for a decade. They shift more than just about any team in baseball (2nd to the Dodgers last year). I mean "old school Dusty" shifted 82% of the time against left handed hitters last year. 82%! Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's on board with analytics. They went to the World Series in 2021 averaging less than 4 innings per start throughout the postseason. People see Dusty's name and just automatically think they don't use analytics. The Astros are one of the 2 or 3 most analytics driven teams in all of baseball.

Dusty Baker is the best, and he really pulls off those gloves too.

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Dusty Baker understands and uses analytics extensively. He has spoken about this before in several interviews. There is a time to play the odds and there is a time to play the game in front of you. Francona has also talked about this same topic - when to use and when to ignore analytics. While it is more pervuasive in the game today, numbers have always been a part of the game. This is why guys like Baker and Francona are comfortable managing the game still. The post is about Baldelli, who is an emerging manager, one who appears to be very tightly tied to the game plan. Perhaps he doesn't have as free of a hand as a vet like Francona or Baker. 

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On 1/18/2023 at 6:39 AM, Heiny said:

If this is true, then why bother having a manager?  You hire a manager that you have confidence in to be with the players on a daily basis.  That is not the FO's job.  The manager gets a feel for his players, and a good solid baseball instinct for his group of players.  It is his job to get the most out of his players and make them competitive on a daily basis.  The FO's job is to give him the best available players(that they can afford).  If Rocco is just a puppet for the FO, then the whole system is screwed up.  Whether he manages by analytics or by baseball knowlege and feel is his choice and he should be held accountable.  Once the players are on the team and on the field, the FO needs to keep their noses out of it.  Let the manager live or die by his own decisions.  If any real baseball man can live by the managerial puppet scenario, then he is not a manager.  A real baseball man would not take that job.  Now, I don't personally "know" that Rocco is a puppet,  but if he is, I don't see how his players would have any respect for that.  As for Francona,  I happen to believe he may be the best manager in baseball at this time.  Does anyone think that he would play puppet for any FO?

You nailed it , Rocco is what he is because of the front office plan ...

And I would not work for the plan if I was a puppet or yes man that the FO wants if i couldn't use my gut feelings in certain situations , he doesn't deviate from the plan so , yes you nailed it ...

His first year as manager in his post game review he was reading answers off a screen that someone had written for him , the questions had been asked prior to the post game by reporters and then when asked again live , he would read from a screen ...

Second season and beyond that doesn't seem to be the case anymore same he has gotten more comfortable with the press ...

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It is ridiculous to pull a starter after five innings and 75 pitches if they are pitching effectively. Imagine pulling Bert Blyleven, Jack Morris, or Bob Gibson after five innings and 75 pitches because the front office dictated it! Or Brad Radke! Even if the bullpen is lights out, eventually it stresses your bullpen too, rendering it ineffective. As a consequence there is a constant flow of relievers from the minors to the majors. Why would any top starter want to pitch for Rocco if they are limited to 150 innings, unless they are jury prone? No wonder they can’t attract top free agent starters. I’m tired of managing by algorithm!

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On 1/18/2023 at 10:41 AM, Nick Hanzlik said:

Yeah I feel that. I live in Iowa, but I managed to drive up a few weekends and catch some games. I think I went to 4, never saw Buxton, saw Correa once. I feel it wouldn't be that difficult to see a weekend home series coming up and maybe give those guys their day off on Thursday or Monday lol

The "Getaway day day off" goes back to Gardy and TK and I wasn't a fan of it then either. 

As much as everybody wants a Francona, he had 4 very bad years in Philadelphia to start his managing career, didn't manage in 2001, 2002 or 2003, and then became TITO (I know he had the nickname before 2004, but it is now his nickname, not his dad's). Not saying Baldelli is or can be Tito, but this is his 5th season as manager and maybe he can figure out a better mix of analytics and gut/in-game decisions. A full spring training and good team health could make him look real good...

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1 hour ago, Otaknam said:

It is ridiculous to pull a starter after five innings and 75 pitches if they are pitching effectively. Imagine pulling Bert Blyleven, Jack Morris, or Bob Gibson after five innings and 75 pitches because the front office dictated it! Or Brad Radke! Even if the bullpen is lights out, eventually it stresses your bullpen too, rendering it ineffective. As a consequence there is a constant flow of relievers from the minors to the majors. Why would any top starter want to pitch for Rocco if they are limited to 150 innings, unless they are jury prone? No wonder they can’t attract top free agent starters. I’m tired of managing by algorithm!

It is a fair point. All those guys played before analytics were used to the degree they are now. I think the "yank the starter before the 3rd trip" method is fine if you are equipped to deal with it. You need a deep bullpen full of good arms. The Twins did not last year. Barring trades and health, the Twins could even implement a 6 man rotation with the staff they have now. The extra off day could in theory allow the starters to throw a few extra pitches. At the end of the day, everything seems like a good idea when it works, and everything seems dumb when it fails.

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1 hour ago, mnfireman said:

The "Getaway day day off" goes back to Gardy and TK and I wasn't a fan of it then either. 

As much as everybody wants a Francona, he had 4 very bad years in Philadelphia to start his managing career, didn't manage in 2001, 2002 or 2003, and then became TITO (I know he had the nickname before 2004, but it is now his nickname, not his dad's). Not saying Baldelli is or can be Tito, but this is his 5th season as manager and maybe he can figure out a better mix of analytics and gut/in-game decisions. A full spring training and good team health could make him look real good...

Very good point. Rocco is still early in his career, and the FO is putting some really interesting pieces in place right no IMO. Also, a bit off the topic of this comment, but another point I think I failed to mention is that great managers don't just grow on trees. What would be our options at the moment if we fired Rocco? I don't think the FO is done making moves this offseason... I am very curious to watch this year, probably more so than the last few.

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Kelly and Gardy were two geeks who couldn't play ball. Couldn't even make the bigs as banjo hitting utility men "who played the right way". 

Rocco was the captain of the football team, prom king, superstar center fielder and 6th pick overall in the MLB draft. He could play ball and did rising quickly and finishing 3rd in rookie of the year. He also lead the American League in outfield assists, a great fielder too. He got unlucky with a rare medical condition, but his love for the game kept him in it as he again rose quickly to become the youngest manager in the league his first year.

Kelly and Gardy had some good runs. Kelly caught lightning in a bottle. We also endured some very lean years with these two. I like Rocco and think when we look back on him it will be with the same reverence as Kelly and Gardy. All the negative voices of the present will fade to the background as these voices always do when their predictions of doom don't materialize. Quietly fade into the background amidst the celebrations, lying in wait for the next slip up to pounce and warn others of the new impending doom. 

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At first I wasn’t crazy about Rocco but he’s done ok. You can’t be to upset as he’s won 2 division titles. Last year we played over our heads and was competitive until September. Give him a break. He just needs to do better job with starting pitching and have them go into 6th/7th innings. We got new team especially the signings this off season! With saying that I think we take division this year

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I'd say you're 1/2 right.  However, Rocco does not inspire and should have been fired by June 1 in 2021.  Team was underwhelming at best.  Rocco is not elite and therefore changing managers in baseball is an easy, oft done way of trying to change the lockerroom.  Not saying the new person would have been better, but it wouldn't have been worse either.  Staying with Rocco at this point, seems like insanity.

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