2012 - July Trade Deadline Moves

#1 - Josh Willingham, Francisco Liriano, Alexi Casilla to Pittsburgh Pirates

for AAA OF - Robbie Grossman (b- grade), A+ SP - Jameson Taillon (a- grade), A SS - Alen Hanson (b/b+ grade), AAA SP - Kyle McPherson (c+ grade), & AAA/MLB RP - Evan Meek.

* if they're unwilling to part with Taillon , get A Ball pitcher Luis Heredia instead....a rich man's version of Adrian Salcedo with strikeout potential.

#2 - Matt Capps to Any contending team with a need of a closer. (ideas are any team from L.A. and the N.Y. Mets)

Angels Infield prospect Kaleb Cowart OR Taylor Lindsey would be a good target , maybe too rich..... also Dodgers Pitching prospect Allen Webster or even Garritt Gould....and Mets SP prospect Juerys Familia or Jennry Mejia.

#3 - Denard Span (either now or off-season) to Washington Nationals

for MLB 2B- Steven Lombardozzi (c+ type of grade) , & AA SP Danny Rosenbaum (b-/b grade) *southpaw.

TOTAL savings apprx. 20-21 Million from willingham, span, liriano, capps.

2012 Off-season

-Let Carl Pavano walk - TOTAL savings $8 Million

-Re-Sign Scott Baker after declining option TOTAL savings $2 Million

-Sign FA OF Torii Hunter to 2 yr. 12 Million dollar deal with a 5.5 Million dollar option for 2015...make it incentive laden early on if a must.

-DFA Nick Blackburn TOTAL savings NA

Sign 1 Top of the Rotation SP = ***Cole Hamels at 4 yrs $78 Million. apprx. $ 19.5 a year with incentives that can make the deal 85/86 Million with a 21 Million dollar option for 2017. *** (probably un-realistic)

** Eric Bedard at 2 yrs $11 Million. apprx 5.5 per.

* Shawn Marcum at 2 yrs $13 Milliion. apprx 6.5 per. with option for 2015.

ONLY ONE SP alloted for.

*2013 Opening Day Roster, theoretical*

1. CF - Ben Revere

2. 2B - Steven Lombardozzi

3. C -- Joe Mauer

4. RF - Torii Hunter

5. 1B - Justin Morneau

6. 3B - Trevor Plouffe

7. DH - Ryan Doumit

8. OF - Robbie Grossman

9. SS - Brian Dozier

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bench:

INF - Jamey Carroll

OF - Joe Benson

C -- Drew Butera

DH - Chris Parmelee

SP1 Hamels/ Marcum/ Bedard/ other , SP2 Scott Baker, SP3 Kyle McPherson, SP4 Scott Diamond, SP5 Kyle Gibson

Relief corps ::: - Jared Burton, Glen Perkins, Alex Burnett, Brian Duensing, Evan Meek, Anthony Swarzak, LR Cole DeVries

AAA top players : Liam Hendriks, Danny Rosenbaum, B.J. Hermsen, David Bromberg, Deolis Guerra, Lester Oliveros, Carlos Gutierrez, Caleb Theilbar, Anthony Slama? .

Aaron Hicks, Rene Tosoni, Evan Bigley, James Beresford, Chris Herrmann, Pedro Florimon? .

(15)

AA top players : *Jameson Taillon, Alex Wimmers, Logan Darnell, Pat Dean, Madison Boer, Luke Bard.

Oswaldo Arcia, Daniel Santana, prospect from Capps.

(9)

A+ / A top players: Hudson Boyd, J.O. Berrios, Adrian Salcedo, Matt Summers, Matt Hauser, Manuel Solimon, J.T. Chargois, Mason Melotakis, Matt Tomshaw.

Miguel Sano, Eddie Rosario, Byron Buxton, Travis Harrison, Max Kepler, Rhory Rhodes, Niko Goodrum, Danny Ortiz, Jorge Fernandez, Jorge Palonco, Nathan Roberts., ALLEN HANSON

(21)

Maybe not a .500 Team or ball-club , but a competitive team none the less in a weak AL Central.

Keeping an eye on an edge for the future as well.

Should say our off-season top prospect list would look something like:

1. Sano

1 B. Taillon / Heredia

2. Buxton

3. Hanson

4. Rosario

5. Arcia

6. Hicks

7. Harrison

8. Berrios

9. Rosenbaum

10. Gibson

11. McPherson

12. Boyd

13. Kepler

14. Bard

15. Wimmers

16. Herrmann

17. Goodrum

18. Boar

19. Melotakis

20. Grossman/ Rhodes/ Salcedo/ Hauser/ Hermsen

I see a lot of creative ideas, but what would be the benefit of bringing back Torii for $6 million per year? The Twins have no shortage of decent outfielders. And don't you think that the Angels or some other team might offer Hunter at least $9 million per year to get a solid right handed batter who is still a capable fielder?

Great post, but I don't (yet) see the logic of bringing Torii back.

I see a lot of creative ideas' date=' but what would be the benefit of bringing back Torii for $6 million per year? The Twins have no shortage of decent outfielders. And don't you think that the Angels or some other team might offer Hunter at least $9 million per year to get a solid right handed batter who is still a capable fielder?

 

Great post, but I don't (yet) see the logic of bringing Torii back.[/quote']

 

Also, the reason that the Twins signed Willingham is because he fits the profile of hitter that does well at Target Field. Hunter was more of a guy built for the Metrodome, which is something that Ryan realized this offseason when he started making moves for people that are more built for hitting at Target Field.

Interesting. A few things. I don't get the Torii thing either. There are probably going to be about 1/3 fewer prospects coming back than what you have here. Marcum is *definitely* someone the Twins should go after, but I would imagine it is going to be at $10 million per year.

I'd put the over/under on Hamels at 6/$130M. Definitely going to get $20M+ per, definitely going to get 6+ years guaranteed. The market loves lefty aces. $19.5M/year might land Greinke, but they'd probably have to go at least 5 years. With the injury, Marcum might not get $10M AAV, but I bet he gets more than 6.5M. Maybe a match of Pavano's deal? No need for Torii - Benson's gonna be able to at least match the old man's OPS, and with much fresher legs...

I see a lot of creative ideas' date=' but what would be the benefit of bringing back Torii for $6 million per year? The Twins have no shortage of decent outfielders. And don't you think that the Angels or some other team might offer Hunter at least $9 million per year to get a solid right handed batter who is still a capable fielder?

 

Great post, but I don't (yet) see the logic of bringing Torii back.[/quote']

 

 

Yeah, well Torii Might come to the Twins , and only the Twins, at a slight discount.... and his overall profile fits in as a decent middle of the order hitter that can come somewhat close to replacing Willingham's impact....obvious the HR's won't be near Joshs' ....but there arn't a whole lot of Corner OF options....

 

and without Willingham AND Span the Twins are going to need at least 1 OFer to bring in.

 

If theres a REAL option out there better than Hunter, I'm all ears.... Maybe there is and for not tooo much more cost.

Willingham is going NOWHERE! He is producing and signed for 2 more seasons to a team friendly contract. Liriano's value right now, today, is as high as its going to get. I don't know our minor league system very well and nothing about any other teams systems, but I would think we would need to find a team that needs 1.) Starting pitching today (Liriano), 2.) An OF who can lead-off and is under team control (Span) and 3.) Maybe a veteran utility IF (Carroll) or veteran RP (Duensing or Gray) and has 1.) An excess of SP that is 2 years or less away from MLB and 2.) A power bat to replace Willingham, Doumit or Morneau in 2 years and some other throw-in pieces. Find the this fit and make the deal.

Thanks for the post. Always good to see ideas out there from people who have thought things out. I will say sorry but the words Torrii Hunter and discount do not fit together. If Torii signs for less money then anticiipated it is because nobody offered more. This from a person who loved Torii as a Twin. Don't over pay for a aging outfelder with a system of potential young stud outfielders. Also if Joe Benson is in the Majors, he should be playing everyday. Very creative ideas.